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Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:20 pm
by Luchino
Interesting updates Gene gave in an interview to a mexican website. Here's a snippet I translated to english:

"The Gene Simmons band is a chance for me to play songs that Kiss have never played before, but also hits and I will be playing the first song of a new box set to be released in October. It has 150 never-before-heard songs, which I spent 50 years making, in a compilation of 10 discs for the box set and the opener is called "Are You Ready?". It will not be available in stores, social media or internet, but those who attend our show will hear it. And then you can have the box set".

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/articulo/espectaculos/musica/2017/06/30/el-kiss-admirador-de-jose-jose

So, we now know it will be 10 cds and will be released in October
It's worth remembering "Are you ready?" is a song written for Monster. As stated in 2011 by Gene:
<< "Are You Ready?" is a new track that I worked out, wrote, and brought everyone into the studio and said: "Let's bang this out." Another of the new songs, tentatively titled "Wall of Sound," we just came up with on the spot. >>

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:22 pm
by gothunder
Yes, way overdue.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:47 pm
by KISSFACE
Very cool, I recall Tommy enthusing about extra songs Gene had that he thought should be heard from those sessions. Hey! As I figure Gene has the last word on this project, Maybe this Monster material won't be Brickwalled!

And performing it live first - kudos, that's exciting. Stuff happening here that nobody expected, only fantasized, dig it.

(Now, about that Ten! THOUSAND Dollar loan, haha...)

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:02 pm
by Kissologist
Lots of interesting stuff in that interview:
He sleeps with spanish ballads songs
A Gene Simmons soda
New magazine "On Power"
A KISS film with Warner Bros.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:40 pm
by jannep17
Kissologist wrote:Lots of interesting stuff in that interview:
He sleeps with spanish ballads songs
A Gene Simmons soda
New magazine "On Power"
A KISS film with Warner Bros.


Oh no.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:43 pm
by goinblind
So not $10K???

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:47 pm
by spaceace77
So it's only going to be available to purchase at the shows?!

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:54 pm
by brokentiny
spaceace77 wrote:So it's only going to be available to purchase at the shows?!


Yeah, I'm not quite sure what that statement meant if it's an accurate translation, but I think it means the song will be heard at the gigs and then the boxset will be available later where you can have the song to keep.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:59 pm
by brokentiny
goinblind wrote:So not $10K???


Yeah not for 10 CDs. Even Simmons won't try and sell it for $10,000.
I mean if Pink Floyd's 27 disc set was able to be kept around $500, Geno can't expect folks to fork out so much more for way less.
I'd say around the $100 USD.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:41 am
by sicksickphil
brokentiny wrote:
goinblind wrote:So not $10K???


Yeah not for 10 CDs. Even Simmons won't try and sell it for $10,000.
I mean if Pink Floyd's 27 disc set was able to be kept around $500, Geno can't expect folks to fork out so much more for way less.
I'd say around the $100 USD.


Bob Dylan released an 18 cd plus 9 45s limited super deluxe set a few years ago that was like $700. Depending on extras, I would say this set will be about $250

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:58 am
by andykiss4ever
It will not be available in stores, social media or internet
So only a physical release and only available at shows? Possibly mail order from his website?

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:09 am
by brokentiny
sicksickphil wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
goinblind wrote:So not $10K???


Yeah not for 10 CDs. Even Simmons won't try and sell it for $10,000.
I mean if Pink Floyd's 27 disc set was able to be kept around $500, Geno can't expect folks to fork out so much more for way less.
I'd say around the $100 USD.


Bob Dylan released an 18 cd plus 9 45s limited super deluxe set a few years ago that was like $700. Depending on extras, I would say this set will be about $250

Yeah, you could be right, $250 may be more realistic. I'm surprised about the Dylan price compared to the Floyd one, but the market for physical objects has dropped a bit over the last few years. Mind you collectors will still collect, hence my Floyd purchase. :lol:

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:13 am
by sicksickphil
andykiss4ever wrote:
It will not be available in stores, social media or internet
So only a physical release and only available at shows? Possibly mail order from his website?


the last monkees box set rhino did was only available on the monkees website. And a few of their box sets before that were only available on rhinos web site.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:31 am
by The Fox
brokentiny wrote:
sicksickphil wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
goinblind wrote:So not $10K???


Yeah not for 10 CDs. Even Simmons won't try and sell it for $10,000.
I mean if Pink Floyd's 27 disc set was able to be kept around $500, Geno can't expect folks to fork out so much more for way less.
I'd say around the $100 USD.


Bob Dylan released an 18 cd plus 9 45s limited super deluxe set a few years ago that was like $700. Depending on extras, I would say this set will be about $250

Yeah, you could be right, $250 may be more realistic. I'm surprised about the Dylan price compared to the Floyd one, but the market for physical objects has dropped a bit over the last few years. Mind you collectors will still collect, hence my Floyd purchase. :lol:


So $250 for 10CDs... you guys are ok with spending $25 a CD? :scratch:

At most this set should be around $120-$150... and idk if it's even worth that as it's being released under the Gene Simmons name and it's just going to be a collection of live tracks, (mostly) unfinished ideas and will most likely be padded with previously released material. Inevitably there will be Kiss related material on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's loaded with boring/uninteresting crap like "Leeta".

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:37 am
by brokentiny
The Fox wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
sicksickphil wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
goinblind wrote:So not $10K???


Yeah not for 10 CDs. Even Simmons won't try and sell it for $10,000.
I mean if Pink Floyd's 27 disc set was able to be kept around $500, Geno can't expect folks to fork out so much more for way less.
I'd say around the $100 USD.


Bob Dylan released an 18 cd plus 9 45s limited super deluxe set a few years ago that was like $700. Depending on extras, I would say this set will be about $250

Yeah, you could be right, $250 may be more realistic. I'm surprised about the Dylan price compared to the Floyd one, but the market for physical objects has dropped a bit over the last few years. Mind you collectors will still collect, hence my Floyd purchase. :lol:


So $250 for 10CDs... you guys are ok with spending $25 a CD? :scratch:

At most this set should be around $120-$150... and idk if it's even worth that as it's being released under the Gene Simmons name and it's just going to be a collection of live tracks, (mostly) unfinished ideas and will most likely be padded with previously released material. Inevitably there will be Kiss related material on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's loaded with boring/uninteresting crap like "Leeta".


In my neck of the woods $25 is about average for one CD, so yeah that sounds about right. No saying it's okay, but always amazed when folks in the US complain about the retail prices they pay for music. :lol:
But we are all just guessing and really have no idea with will be included (booklet, printed material bonus stuff etc), how limited it will be and the process of sale... So lets wait and see.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:53 am
by Homer Simpson
brokentiny wrote:
spaceace77 wrote:So it's only going to be available to purchase at the shows?!


Yeah, I'm not quite sure what that statement meant if it's an accurate translation, but I think it means the song will be heard at the gigs and then the boxset will be available later where you can have the song to keep.


That's how I interpreted it.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:57 am
by sicksickphil
The Fox wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
sicksickphil wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
goinblind wrote:So not $10K???


Yeah not for 10 CDs. Even Simmons won't try and sell it for $10,000.
I mean if Pink Floyd's 27 disc set was able to be kept around $500, Geno can't expect folks to fork out so much more for way less.
I'd say around the $100 USD.


Bob Dylan released an 18 cd plus 9 45s limited super deluxe set a few years ago that was like $700. Depending on extras, I would say this set will be about $250

Yeah, you could be right, $250 may be more realistic. I'm surprised about the Dylan price compared to the Floyd one, but the market for physical objects has dropped a bit over the last few years. Mind you collectors will still collect, hence my Floyd purchase. :lol:


So $250 for 10CDs... you guys are ok with spending $25 a CD? :scratch:

At most this set should be around $120-$150... and idk if it's even worth that as it's being released under the Gene Simmons name and it's just going to be a collection of live tracks, (mostly) unfinished ideas and will most likely be padded with previously released material. Inevitably there will be Kiss related material on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's loaded with boring/uninteresting crap like "Leeta".


In all odds this is going to be in special packing with other stuff. And these packages tend to sell at a premium. I doubt there will be much live stuff on it if any.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:13 am
by The Fox
brokentiny wrote:
The Fox wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
sicksickphil wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
goinblind wrote:So not $10K???


Yeah not for 10 CDs. Even Simmons won't try and sell it for $10,000.
I mean if Pink Floyd's 27 disc set was able to be kept around $500, Geno can't expect folks to fork out so much more for way less.
I'd say around the $100 USD.


Bob Dylan released an 18 cd plus 9 45s limited super deluxe set a few years ago that was like $700. Depending on extras, I would say this set will be about $250

Yeah, you could be right, $250 may be more realistic. I'm surprised about the Dylan price compared to the Floyd one, but the market for physical objects has dropped a bit over the last few years. Mind you collectors will still collect, hence my Floyd purchase. :lol:


So $250 for 10CDs... you guys are ok with spending $25 a CD? :scratch:

At most this set should be around $120-$150... and idk if it's even worth that as it's being released under the Gene Simmons name and it's just going to be a collection of live tracks, (mostly) unfinished ideas and will most likely be padded with previously released material. Inevitably there will be Kiss related material on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's loaded with boring/uninteresting crap like "Leeta".


In my neck of the woods $25 is about average for one CD, so yeah that sounds about right. No saying it's okay, but always amazed when folks in the US complain about the retail prices they pay for music. :lol:


Average CD prices in Australia are $25 in 2017? Really?

I believe the suggested retail price for CDs in the U.S. is around $18.99 which is ridiculous in the internet era when you can essentially listen to almost anything you want for free.

I have no problems with buying music, I prefer to have physical CDs over paying for downloads or pay-streaming sites or whatever... but the average American teenager/young adult isn't gonna pay almost $20 for a CD in 2017. Now, in 1997, maybe if it was an import or some special release, but it ain't exactly 1997 anymore, lol.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:55 am
by sicksickphil
The Fox wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
The Fox wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
sicksickphil wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
goinblind wrote:So not $10K???


Yeah not for 10 CDs. Even Simmons won't try and sell it for $10,000.
I mean if Pink Floyd's 27 disc set was able to be kept around $500, Geno can't expect folks to fork out so much more for way less.
I'd say around the $100 USD.


Bob Dylan released an 18 cd plus 9 45s limited super deluxe set a few years ago that was like $700. Depending on extras, I would say this set will be about $250

Yeah, you could be right, $250 may be more realistic. I'm surprised about the Dylan price compared to the Floyd one, but the market for physical objects has dropped a bit over the last few years. Mind you collectors will still collect, hence my Floyd purchase. :lol:


So $250 for 10CDs... you guys are ok with spending $25 a CD? :scratch:

At most this set should be around $120-$150... and idk if it's even worth that as it's being released under the Gene Simmons name and it's just going to be a collection of live tracks, (mostly) unfinished ideas and will most likely be padded with previously released material. Inevitably there will be Kiss related material on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's loaded with boring/uninteresting crap like "Leeta".


In my neck of the woods $25 is about average for one CD, so yeah that sounds about right. No saying it's okay, but always amazed when folks in the US complain about the retail prices they pay for music. :lol:


Average CD prices in Australia are $25 in 2017? Really?

I believe the suggested retail price for CDs in the U.S. is around $18.99 which is ridiculous in the internet era when you can essentially listen to almost anything you want for free.

I have no problems with buying music, I prefer to have physical CDs over paying for downloads or pay-streaming sites or whatever... but the average American teenager/young adult isn't gonna pay almost $20 for a CD in 2017. Now, in 1997, maybe if it was an import or some special release, but it ain't exactly 1997 anymore, lol.



Do you think a teenager/young adult is going to buy the Gene Simmons box set ? It is for hard core fans. The last monkees box set was like $70. It had three cds and one 45 and very few unreleased recordings. Odds are there will be about 150 unreleased recordings Gene Simmons box set.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:22 am
by The Fox
sicksickphil wrote:
The Fox wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
The Fox wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
sicksickphil wrote:
brokentiny wrote:
goinblind wrote:So not $10K???


Yeah not for 10 CDs. Even Simmons won't try and sell it for $10,000.
I mean if Pink Floyd's 27 disc set was able to be kept around $500, Geno can't expect folks to fork out so much more for way less.
I'd say around the $100 USD.


Bob Dylan released an 18 cd plus 9 45s limited super deluxe set a few years ago that was like $700. Depending on extras, I would say this set will be about $250

Yeah, you could be right, $250 may be more realistic. I'm surprised about the Dylan price compared to the Floyd one, but the market for physical objects has dropped a bit over the last few years. Mind you collectors will still collect, hence my Floyd purchase. :lol:


So $250 for 10CDs... you guys are ok with spending $25 a CD? :scratch:

At most this set should be around $120-$150... and idk if it's even worth that as it's being released under the Gene Simmons name and it's just going to be a collection of live tracks, (mostly) unfinished ideas and will most likely be padded with previously released material. Inevitably there will be Kiss related material on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's loaded with boring/uninteresting crap like "Leeta".


In my neck of the woods $25 is about average for one CD, so yeah that sounds about right. No saying it's okay, but always amazed when folks in the US complain about the retail prices they pay for music. :lol:


Average CD prices in Australia are $25 in 2017? Really?

I believe the suggested retail price for CDs in the U.S. is around $18.99 which is ridiculous in the internet era when you can essentially listen to almost anything you want for free.

I have no problems with buying music, I prefer to have physical CDs over paying for downloads or pay-streaming sites or whatever... but the average American teenager/young adult isn't gonna pay almost $20 for a CD in 2017. Now, in 1997, maybe if it was an import or some special release, but it ain't exactly 1997 anymore, lol.



Do you think a teenager/young adult is going to buy the Gene Simmons box set ?


I don't think anybody is going to buy the Gene Simmons box set. :P

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:27 am
by DonkeyKong
The generation of today won´t pay for a CD anyway which probably leaves a higher price for us who wants it.
I expect a price range around 150-300$.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:42 am
by blrghh
I still can't get over how the same guy who says there's no 'financial model that works' for a new album... is putting out a ten cd box set of demos.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:53 am
by sicksickphil
blrghh wrote:I still can't get over how the same guy who says there's no 'financial model that works' for a new album... is putting out a ten cd box set of demos.


While gene is wrong, everything is already recorded with the box set and it won't be selling for $15.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:04 am
by aceshigh
blrghh wrote:I still can't get over how the same guy who says there's no 'financial model that works' for a new album... is putting out a ten cd box set of demos.


Agreed. Demos throwaways and songs that weren't god enough for official release and now for sale. If you enjoy fine but I see it as another money grab by Simmons.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:50 am
by That 70s Guy
Not interested.

I want to hear "Love Gun".

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:53 am
by KISSFACE
How many years, by the way, from word to deed in getting this out? It's been so long I've forgotten just when he first brought up the idea in public.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:54 am
by lespaul
Whatever ..

I am interested in this box set,, and it will be fun listening to the demos, crap or not, lol :)

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:43 am
by Ironfist76
Kool news! :thumleft: Thanks for translating and posting.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:51 am
by kenn.ace
KISSFACE wrote:How many years, by the way, from word to deed in getting this out? It's been so long I've forgotten just when he first brought up the idea in public.

He mentioned it on The Apprentice in 2008. Not sure if it was mentioned before that. At that time, it was going to be a 100 song box set I think.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:14 am
by LordThurisaz
I hope we can finally get an official release of Stanley the Parrot and My Uncle is a Raft. Definitely dying for those.

If we're lucky, maybe we'll get the three tracks Gene did for Unmasked that supposedly sound better.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:10 am
by Easy Catman
Very much looking forward to this release in October. I hope sufficient work will be done to maximise sound quality and extensive notes provided for each track.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:38 am
by aceshigh
lespaul wrote:Whatever ..

I am interested in this box set,, and it will be fun listening to the demos, crap or not, lol :)


And after one listen of substandard junk it will sit on the shelf and be worthless.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:12 pm
by Luchino
brokentiny wrote:
spaceace77 wrote:So it's only going to be available to purchase at the shows?!


Yeah, I'm not quite sure what that statement meant if it's an accurate translation, but I think it means the song will be heard at the gigs and then the boxset will be available later where you can have the song to keep.

yes, he was refering to the song Are You Ready..that it won't be sold as a single or anything, it will be only be played live... and then it will be released in the box set

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:29 pm
by LordThurisaz
aceshigh wrote:
lespaul wrote:Whatever ..

I am interested in this box set,, and it will be fun listening to the demos, crap or not, lol :)


And after one listen of substandard junk it will sit on the shelf and be worthless.

Pretty much. There will be a few gems, probably less than 10%, but most of it will be stuff that wasn't good enough for a KISS record.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:28 pm
by The Fox
kenn.ace wrote:
KISSFACE wrote:How many years, by the way, from word to deed in getting this out? It's been so long I've forgotten just when he first brought up the idea in public.

He mentioned it on The Apprentice in 2008. Not sure if it was mentioned before that. At that time, it was going to be a 100 song box set I think.


I think Gene talking about a "mother of all" box sets actually goes as far back as the late 90s, or the early 2000s... I'm pretty sure that the huge disappointment that was the 2001 box set that Kiss released evolved out of this talk.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:41 pm
by Hellbastard
LordThurisaz wrote:I hope we can finally get an official release of Stanley the Parrot and My Uncle is a Raft


Haven't we already had an official release (=2001 Box Set) of the Parrot?

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:52 pm
by sicksickphil
The Fox wrote:
kenn.ace wrote:
KISSFACE wrote:How many years, by the way, from word to deed in getting this out? It's been so long I've forgotten just when he first brought up the idea in public.

He mentioned it on The Apprentice in 2008. Not sure if it was mentioned before that. At that time, it was going to be a 100 song box set I think.


I think Gene talking about a "mother of all" box sets actually goes as far back as the late 90s, or the early 2000s... I'm pretty sure that the huge disappointment that was the 2001 box set that Kiss released evolved out of this talk.


Yeah and that mother of all box sets didn't come out because the record company didn't want to pay for it.

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:26 pm
by mainline
If this is true,we all waited years for this box set to only buy it if Gene
performs at a concert in your area.
RIDICULOUS!!

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:19 am
by WreackHavoc
I am excited about this. I hope "Hello Hello" will be on there :)

Re: Gene's Box Set - 10 CDs, in October, and opener revelead

PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:31 am
by lespaul
aceshigh wrote:
lespaul wrote:Whatever ..

I am interested in this box set,, and it will be fun listening to the demos, crap or not, lol :)


And after one listen of substandard junk it will sit on the shelf and be worthless.


could be, sure. but no different than to most of my kiss cd`s like animalize up to today..