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Post Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:32 pm

Great listen

Just listened to Peter's 1978 solo. Like a fine wine, this gets better with age. Probably the most honest output of all the 4. Great melodies, session musos and vox.

My ranking:

1/ Ace - unhinged, well produced and ballsy
2/EQUAL Paul and Peter - (Paul's is "safer" but you cannot deny the songs)
3/ Gene - disjointed but good in parts
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Post Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:48 pm

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Absolutely. Peter's album is severely under appreciated among KISS fans. I've said it 1,000 times and I'll say it again... Put all of their '78 solo albums up against artists doing similar material, and Peter's holds up far better than the other three.
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Post Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:57 pm

Re: Great listen

Imagine a 78 double album with this:

Rip It Out
Fractured Mirror
NY Groove
Sppedin' Back to My Baby

Radioactive
See You Tonite
Man of 1000 Faces
Tunnel of Love

Don't You Let Me Down
You Matter To Me
Hooked on Rock and Roll
I Can't Stop The Rain

Move On
Tonight You Belong To Me
Ain't Quite Right
Goodbye
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Post Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:06 pm

Re: Great listen

px74 wrote:Imagine a '78 double album with this:

Rip it Out
Fractured Mirror
New York Groove
Speedin' Back To My Baby

Radioactive
See You Tonite
Man Of 1,000 Faces
Tunnel Of Love

Don't You Let Me Down
You Still Matter To Me
Hooked On Rock 'N' Roll
I Can't Stop The Rain

Move On
Tonight You Belong To Me
Ain't Quite Right
Goodbye


Cool! I've done this, but with a diff'rent track list.
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Post Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:44 pm

Re: Great listen

I do like Peter's album a lot now that I'm older.

But I also like Gene's a lot now, too. It's a production and arrangement masterpiece, in my opinion. There's a lot of complex stuff going on there, which is impressive, especially considering how quickly it had to come together. It's also a nice view into the nerdy, vulnerable, "real" Gene that we never really saw again.
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Post Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:58 pm

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goinblind wrote:I do like Peter's album a lot now that I'm older.

But I also like Gene's a lot now, too. It's a production and arrangement masterpiece, in my opinion. There's a lot of complex stuff going on there, which is impressive, especially considering how quickly it had to come together. It's also a nice view into the nerdy, vulnerable, "real" Gene that we never really saw again.


AGREE 400%
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Post Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:07 pm

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px74 wrote:Just listened to Peter's 1978 solo. Like a fine wine, this gets better with age. Probably the most honest output of all the 4. Great melodies, session musos and vox.

My ranking:

1/ Ace - unhinged, well produced and ballsy
2/EQUAL Paul and Peter - (Paul's is "safer" but you cannot deny the songs)
3/ Gene - disjointed but good in parts


Liking Peter's album is one thing, and not the point.
But calling it "honest" in relation to Peter & and more "honest" than Ace, Gene or Paul's is funny.

It's Peter singing a album full of cover tunes.
He wrote zero music or lyrics.
He paid Stan to put his name on his songs.
Peter says so in his book.
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Post Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:15 pm

Re: Great listen

caligari wrote:
px74 wrote:Just listened to Peter's 1978 solo. Like a fine wine, this gets better with age. Probably the most honest output of all the 4. Great melodies, session musos and vox.

My ranking:

1/ Ace - unhinged, well produced and ballsy
2/EQUAL Paul and Peter - (Paul's is "safer" but you cannot deny the songs)
3/ Gene - disjointed but good in parts


Liking Peter's album is one thing, and not the point.
But calling it "honest" in relation to Peter & and more "honest" than Ace, Gene or Paul's is funny.

It's Peter singing a album full of cover tunes.
He wrote zero music or lyrics.
He paid Stan to put his name on his songs.
Peter says so in his book.



Doesn't mean he is not singing from the heart; I never said the others were not honest - however this is just my personal opinion. You do not have to be the songwriter to add integrity to the song. How many tracks did Elvis write?
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Post Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:59 am

Re: Great listen

67321 wrote:
px74 wrote:Imagine a '78 double album with this:

Rip it Out
Fractured Mirror
New York Groove
Speedin' Back To My Baby

Radioactive
See You Tonite
Man Of 1,000 Faces
Tunnel Of Love

Don't You Let Me Down
You Still Matter To Me
Hooked On Rock 'N' Roll
I Can't Stop The Rain

Move On
Tonight You Belong To Me
Ain't Quite Right
Goodbye


Cool! I've done this, but with a diff'rent track list.


Mine...

Rip it Out
Snowblind
What's on Your Mind
Fractured Mirror

Wouldn't You Like to Know Me
Take Me Away (together as one)
Hold Me, Touch Me (think of me when were apart)
Goodbye

I'm Gonna Love You
That's the Kind of Sugar Papa Likes
Hooked on Rock 'N' Roll
I Can't Stop the Rain

A 20-minute apology from Gene Simmons

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